jsb
08-13 10:37 AM
As I read the thread above on the perennial point of contention PD or RD or ND.
My question to the forum is how can TSC (My case was filed at TSC) sent an RFE if the case is not opened....I received an RFE in Nov of 2008...my 485 RD was July 23rd 2007 and ND was Sept 5 th 2007.
The RFE was responded to....now I was surely out of the ND window last year and technically an IO shouldn't have opened my file...but apparently he did...
Since I was contacting my local congressman and Senators...I got this feedback that my case is pre-adjudicated but waiting to have a visa number available....but I don't know who to trust...I am just not very hopeful and if 485 ND is the date they go by I have no chance and will miss this opportunity too.
SoP
Published dates are approximate dates for a ball park idea on where cases are for minimizing phone calls. If published date is Sep 8, 2007. It could have a very wide window of reality between (i) someone has looked at least one case of this date, or (ii) All cases upto this date have been seen. Further, your contacting congressman and Senators might have triggered action on your case. In a paper dealing world, there are no precise answers. Published dates are based on manual feedback by dozens of IO's at each center.
My question to the forum is how can TSC (My case was filed at TSC) sent an RFE if the case is not opened....I received an RFE in Nov of 2008...my 485 RD was July 23rd 2007 and ND was Sept 5 th 2007.
The RFE was responded to....now I was surely out of the ND window last year and technically an IO shouldn't have opened my file...but apparently he did...
Since I was contacting my local congressman and Senators...I got this feedback that my case is pre-adjudicated but waiting to have a visa number available....but I don't know who to trust...I am just not very hopeful and if 485 ND is the date they go by I have no chance and will miss this opportunity too.
SoP
Published dates are approximate dates for a ball park idea on where cases are for minimizing phone calls. If published date is Sep 8, 2007. It could have a very wide window of reality between (i) someone has looked at least one case of this date, or (ii) All cases upto this date have been seen. Further, your contacting congressman and Senators might have triggered action on your case. In a paper dealing world, there are no precise answers. Published dates are based on manual feedback by dozens of IO's at each center.
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srkamath
07-10 05:43 PM
It may seem like there are more posts by IV members about EB2 than EB3
That does not mean that IV favors or is concerned about EB2 only.
What is IV ? - it is us ... the members .....
There may be more EB2 related posts and predictions / estimates than EB3 because,
1. The EB2 numbers are a little easier to estimate ....
2. Maybe members affected by EB3 retrogression are not posting many predictions / estimates, as it seems like a hopelessly long wait....
3. There are a few members here that are making their plight seem worse by posting, wild guesses or guesstimates that are gloomy (such as 50k EB2 IN each in 2004 and 2005) ........
4. No one has yet posted a good estimate (not a guess or guesstimate) of the EB3 backlog....
5. It takes a lot of time and patience to dig for reliable data......
That does not mean that IV favors or is concerned about EB2 only.
What is IV ? - it is us ... the members .....
There may be more EB2 related posts and predictions / estimates than EB3 because,
1. The EB2 numbers are a little easier to estimate ....
2. Maybe members affected by EB3 retrogression are not posting many predictions / estimates, as it seems like a hopelessly long wait....
3. There are a few members here that are making their plight seem worse by posting, wild guesses or guesstimates that are gloomy (such as 50k EB2 IN each in 2004 and 2005) ........
4. No one has yet posted a good estimate (not a guess or guesstimate) of the EB3 backlog....
5. It takes a lot of time and patience to dig for reliable data......
anilsal
09-07 11:15 PM
Jobs in America is for Americans. If at all it gets outsourced to your country then it is yours. But as long as that job is in my country, I will defend it and not let some Strive or Skill act take it away from me.
How did you assume that our IV members do not have the will to gather together and ask for what they desire?
This IV community will show you at the DC rally and in the future.
You and your so called followers of an antiquated philosophy should read my signature below.
How did you assume that our IV members do not have the will to gather together and ask for what they desire?
This IV community will show you at the DC rally and in the future.
You and your so called followers of an antiquated philosophy should read my signature below.
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ssamineni
06-17 09:12 PM
I have the same name issue. Will it be a problem at all?
Please advise what should I do.
Please advise what should I do.
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wa_Saiprasad
07-17 09:13 PM
This is a classic example for "HARD WORK PAYS BACK". Words won't match for the effort that IV core team has put in.
T H A N K Y O U V E R Y M U C H !!!!!!!!!!
T H A N K Y O U V E R Y M U C H !!!!!!!!!!
mvinayam
08-14 12:22 PM
Hi All,
My cheques got encashed & based yesterday.
Application filied on : July 2
Service Center : NSC
I-140 approved on Jun 2006 from TSC
LUD of I-140 : 07/28/2007
Recp.No starts as : "SRCxxxxxxxx"
so looks like though I filied the application at NSC based on the working location it got transferred to TSC as my I-140 has been approved by TSC.
Thanks
MV
My cheques got encashed & based yesterday.
Application filied on : July 2
Service Center : NSC
I-140 approved on Jun 2006 from TSC
LUD of I-140 : 07/28/2007
Recp.No starts as : "SRCxxxxxxxx"
so looks like though I filied the application at NSC based on the working location it got transferred to TSC as my I-140 has been approved by TSC.
Thanks
MV
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ps3539
05-11 03:30 PM
i agree that substituted labors move back in the queue.
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reedandbamboo
09-11 09:10 PM
Folks,
Thank you for your patience. Here is a short piece I wrote that I will be emailing to digital2k. In the meantime, I am posting it here for your FEEDBACK AND PERUSAL.
Please DO SOME FACT CHECKING for me .. for example, the dates, time frames, etc.
Thanks!
Around the second week of each month, a welter of activity breaks out on the online forums of Immigration Voice, a non-profit organization set up by employment-based legal immigrants in the US. Users on the site vie with each other to predict the cut-off dates for the next month�s Visa Bulletin. These dates dictate the hopes and lives of thousands of legal immigrants and owing to their sheer numbers, Indian and Chinese applicants make up the overwhelming majority of those who wait in line for employment-based US permanent residence.
Since 200x, barring a few anomalous months, the cut-off dates have largely languished between 2003 and 2004. While the annual limit of per-country allocated visas for Indian and Chinese applicants are exceeded by the number of applicants, the problem is compounded by the ongoing inefficiency of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). This inefficiency occurs at many levels of processing:
1) Slow processing times often leading to wasted visa numbers that expire at the end of the immigration year.
2) Lack of transparency throughout the process.
3) Lack of customer service in spite of regular ramping up of immigration fees.
4) Random movements, spanning months and sometimes, years, in the cut-off dates of the monthly visa bulletins.
5) Lack of communication between the USCIS and the Department of State (DOS) (the agency that sets the visa bulletin).
These are some of the most glaring inefficiencies that law-abiding, tax-paying immigrants suffer throughout the lengthy process which more often than not spans a minimum period of five years. However, the most egregious of the USCIS�s faults is the apparently complete cluelessness as to the number of applicants pending in their database. It boggles the mind how an agency of such import is unable to give a definite figure to the number of applications remaining to be adjudicated. That the United States, the most advanced country in economic and military leagues, can�t account for its legal immigrants speaks to the need for more highly-skilled immigrants to improve the status quo?
Thank you for your patience. Here is a short piece I wrote that I will be emailing to digital2k. In the meantime, I am posting it here for your FEEDBACK AND PERUSAL.
Please DO SOME FACT CHECKING for me .. for example, the dates, time frames, etc.
Thanks!
Around the second week of each month, a welter of activity breaks out on the online forums of Immigration Voice, a non-profit organization set up by employment-based legal immigrants in the US. Users on the site vie with each other to predict the cut-off dates for the next month�s Visa Bulletin. These dates dictate the hopes and lives of thousands of legal immigrants and owing to their sheer numbers, Indian and Chinese applicants make up the overwhelming majority of those who wait in line for employment-based US permanent residence.
Since 200x, barring a few anomalous months, the cut-off dates have largely languished between 2003 and 2004. While the annual limit of per-country allocated visas for Indian and Chinese applicants are exceeded by the number of applicants, the problem is compounded by the ongoing inefficiency of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). This inefficiency occurs at many levels of processing:
1) Slow processing times often leading to wasted visa numbers that expire at the end of the immigration year.
2) Lack of transparency throughout the process.
3) Lack of customer service in spite of regular ramping up of immigration fees.
4) Random movements, spanning months and sometimes, years, in the cut-off dates of the monthly visa bulletins.
5) Lack of communication between the USCIS and the Department of State (DOS) (the agency that sets the visa bulletin).
These are some of the most glaring inefficiencies that law-abiding, tax-paying immigrants suffer throughout the lengthy process which more often than not spans a minimum period of five years. However, the most egregious of the USCIS�s faults is the apparently complete cluelessness as to the number of applicants pending in their database. It boggles the mind how an agency of such import is unable to give a definite figure to the number of applications remaining to be adjudicated. That the United States, the most advanced country in economic and military leagues, can�t account for its legal immigrants speaks to the need for more highly-skilled immigrants to improve the status quo?
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vparam
09-08 12:18 PM
Now that your faith is restored, I'm assuming we'll see you in DC? :)
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
I do not want to be involved in faith restored discussion.... I have been in IV for long enough to know about IV... and since i know IV considerbly well... that is the reason i put forward my question in this open forum... Since IV is open organization.... some might prefer it to be PM but i prefer it to be open discussion
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
I do not want to be involved in faith restored discussion.... I have been in IV for long enough to know about IV... and since i know IV considerbly well... that is the reason i put forward my question in this open forum... Since IV is open organization.... some might prefer it to be PM but i prefer it to be open discussion
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07-09 07:32 AM
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ssreenu
04-14 12:26 PM
Can we rope in organizations like those mentioned in the subject line for our cause?
What exactly do you mean to do? Throw in your ideas and nothing will be spared...
What exactly do you mean to do? Throw in your ideas and nothing will be spared...
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mohanty999
08-17 05:54 PM
Since your file is at TSC, there is an email address that AILA members have to request that your file be processed once PD is current. Contact your lawyer and ask him to check AILA InfoNet Doc. No. 08103067, that's where the procedure is outlined.
I asked my lawyer abouT this and she said that in a recent AILA liasion meeting, TSC told AILA that they now have an "automatic sweep" process to determine which applicants have current PDs and therefore this email process is no longer required. Has anyone else heard the same?
I asked my lawyer abouT this and she said that in a recent AILA liasion meeting, TSC told AILA that they now have an "automatic sweep" process to determine which applicants have current PDs and therefore this email process is no longer required. Has anyone else heard the same?
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jsb
08-18 09:26 AM
jsb,
Now I think some major clarifications are needed here. The Receipt Date (RD) that is printed on the I-485 receipt is the date whenever queuing according to RD is needed. This is THE date wherever a FIFO is required and is as assigned as soon as the envelope containing the I-485 is received.
The ND only represents the date data-entry is made. This is the date which is mentioned erroneously as "received date" on the USCIS online system. Now this thing has been mentioned at USCIS liaison meetings by center directors and thro' AILA several times (I will post the reference as soon as I find it).
That said whenever I talked to NSC officers (not the National Customer SC non-officers or regional call center IIO's or Infopass ignoramuses) ..officers who personally were aware of the going on's at the service center they said the Notice date does not carry any value for case adjudication priorities and the CLAIMS 3 systems only sequences (or sweeps as they call it) as per the PD and RD (when needed).
Further, since I see all the notes made for my approved I-485 (thro' FOIA) including the worksheet completed by contractors. I clearly do not see any notations mentioned with reference to the ND on it...
That said, for the OP, since your RD is very close to the "official" processing date there are all chances that your application might have already gone under the eyes of a CAO (Center Adjudication Officer). Call NSC directly and ask since you are so close and especially since your date is going current next month....you want to make sure that your file is either pre-adjudicated OR assigned to an officer.
Normally, RD (on your receipt), and actual data entry date followed by the notice should be in quick succession. Logically, ND is just a notice date, therefore, when questioned they are correct in saying that ND has no relevance for any processing decisions. Due to high volumes of July/Aug 07, a lot of case files were just lying in warehouses for months before a center agreed to accept them. That's why you see online RD so different (and very close to ND).
If your statement in your first para is true, centers will have to do a lot of work for manually sorting thousands of cases before placing them in cabinets, which is quite impractical. Unless somebody is forcing them to do so, it is highly unlikely to happen. Note that issues under discussion are impacted by high volumes of July/Aug 07 for which systems are not designed. Also, as most cases are not PD dependant, USCIS systems don't handle them well, as they are not designed for handling PD based cases efficiently.
Now I think some major clarifications are needed here. The Receipt Date (RD) that is printed on the I-485 receipt is the date whenever queuing according to RD is needed. This is THE date wherever a FIFO is required and is as assigned as soon as the envelope containing the I-485 is received.
The ND only represents the date data-entry is made. This is the date which is mentioned erroneously as "received date" on the USCIS online system. Now this thing has been mentioned at USCIS liaison meetings by center directors and thro' AILA several times (I will post the reference as soon as I find it).
That said whenever I talked to NSC officers (not the National Customer SC non-officers or regional call center IIO's or Infopass ignoramuses) ..officers who personally were aware of the going on's at the service center they said the Notice date does not carry any value for case adjudication priorities and the CLAIMS 3 systems only sequences (or sweeps as they call it) as per the PD and RD (when needed).
Further, since I see all the notes made for my approved I-485 (thro' FOIA) including the worksheet completed by contractors. I clearly do not see any notations mentioned with reference to the ND on it...
That said, for the OP, since your RD is very close to the "official" processing date there are all chances that your application might have already gone under the eyes of a CAO (Center Adjudication Officer). Call NSC directly and ask since you are so close and especially since your date is going current next month....you want to make sure that your file is either pre-adjudicated OR assigned to an officer.
Normally, RD (on your receipt), and actual data entry date followed by the notice should be in quick succession. Logically, ND is just a notice date, therefore, when questioned they are correct in saying that ND has no relevance for any processing decisions. Due to high volumes of July/Aug 07, a lot of case files were just lying in warehouses for months before a center agreed to accept them. That's why you see online RD so different (and very close to ND).
If your statement in your first para is true, centers will have to do a lot of work for manually sorting thousands of cases before placing them in cabinets, which is quite impractical. Unless somebody is forcing them to do so, it is highly unlikely to happen. Note that issues under discussion are impacted by high volumes of July/Aug 07 for which systems are not designed. Also, as most cases are not PD dependant, USCIS systems don't handle them well, as they are not designed for handling PD based cases efficiently.
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11-30 02:34 PM
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Canadian_Dream
03-06 03:28 PM
I will do $20. This FIOA is vital to the transparency of the system and surfacing this information would provide valuable insights that will perhaps bring closure to VB guessing games/forward movement prediction.
What's core team take on this ?
What's core team take on this ?
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theMan
07-17 08:47 PM
You are "theMen" and "theWomen" as well. I have been advocating your role in obtaining relief for many of us here. Obviously some free riders and doubting thomases are still there, but once again, congratulations on a job well done.
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PlainSpeak
04-16 11:29 AM
Come on guys it's the weekend..relax and enjoy it
It's ok to let go of provocations
Life is unpredictable so relish every moment
Try yoga ...it works wonders for me :)
Precisely my words life is unpredictable so what makes the EB2 guys so confident to say that once EB2 becomes current EB3 I will get spillover
Fact is .....
- EB2 will never become current
- Spillover will got to EBROW not EB3
So all these logic will go out of the window because life is unpredictable
It's ok to let go of provocations
Life is unpredictable so relish every moment
Try yoga ...it works wonders for me :)
Precisely my words life is unpredictable so what makes the EB2 guys so confident to say that once EB2 becomes current EB3 I will get spillover
Fact is .....
- EB2 will never become current
- Spillover will got to EBROW not EB3
So all these logic will go out of the window because life is unpredictable
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ronhira
12-04 08:28 PM
Lets see, she
1. was here illegally
2. was convicted of shoplifting.
3. Drove without a license.
4. Had unpaid driving fines. (Bet she didnt have driving insurance either).
1. documented / undocumented is a matter of immigration status..... no human can be illegal..... an activity can be illegal which makes a person undocumented...... as defined by human law...... but above human law there is another law..... which is defined by an entity more or less we all believe in..... how can a new born child.... a creation of the creator be illegal? delivery of a child is not just a matter of mother.... its a matter of another life being brought into this world..... how can that child be illegal?
2. even felons are not shackled to bed.... unless someone is danger to others..... how can a pregnant woman just about to deliver a child be danger to anyone else.....
3. i lost my wallet few days back.... anyone could lose their wallet sometime or the other ..... it happens..... and during that time we are all driving with a license..... does it mean we all must be shackled to bed when delivering a child......
4. unpaid driving fines?? big deal.... obama had unpaid tickets.... which were paid just before announcing presidential nomination.... majority of the people voted him to become the president..... but according to you..... its ok to shackle someone when delivering a child if that person had unpaid tickets..... nice....
for anti immigrants...... we all r no different than undocumented..... anti immigrants want all immigrants to be thrown out..... period..... u may think that u'r better than undocumented..... & somehow its ok to treat someone inhumanely becoz of their undocumented status.... but the types of that deputy of sheriff joe will not hesitate to do the same to u (if u r a immigrant woman with legal status) ...... or to ur wife (if u r wife is an immigrant woman with legal status)..... they will just make up for the reason .... like resisting arrest..... attacked officer at the time of arrest.... blah blah blah .....so don't pretend that u r any better than that undocumented woman..... becoz u r not........
1. was here illegally
2. was convicted of shoplifting.
3. Drove without a license.
4. Had unpaid driving fines. (Bet she didnt have driving insurance either).
1. documented / undocumented is a matter of immigration status..... no human can be illegal..... an activity can be illegal which makes a person undocumented...... as defined by human law...... but above human law there is another law..... which is defined by an entity more or less we all believe in..... how can a new born child.... a creation of the creator be illegal? delivery of a child is not just a matter of mother.... its a matter of another life being brought into this world..... how can that child be illegal?
2. even felons are not shackled to bed.... unless someone is danger to others..... how can a pregnant woman just about to deliver a child be danger to anyone else.....
3. i lost my wallet few days back.... anyone could lose their wallet sometime or the other ..... it happens..... and during that time we are all driving with a license..... does it mean we all must be shackled to bed when delivering a child......
4. unpaid driving fines?? big deal.... obama had unpaid tickets.... which were paid just before announcing presidential nomination.... majority of the people voted him to become the president..... but according to you..... its ok to shackle someone when delivering a child if that person had unpaid tickets..... nice....
for anti immigrants...... we all r no different than undocumented..... anti immigrants want all immigrants to be thrown out..... period..... u may think that u'r better than undocumented..... & somehow its ok to treat someone inhumanely becoz of their undocumented status.... but the types of that deputy of sheriff joe will not hesitate to do the same to u (if u r a immigrant woman with legal status) ...... or to ur wife (if u r wife is an immigrant woman with legal status)..... they will just make up for the reason .... like resisting arrest..... attacked officer at the time of arrest.... blah blah blah .....so don't pretend that u r any better than that undocumented woman..... becoz u r not........
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iptel
04-21 10:27 PM
I am VoIP Engineer I use to work in a branch office in different state from where I filed my labor. My company forced me to move to head office which in different state even though I explained them my situation they just refuse to listen. I moved to different state as I had no option. Now my labor is in jepordy. More over I was reluctant to move out of the state where I was before due to my personal choice so I posted my resume on monster expressing my job location in the state where I was working. I was overwhelmed to receive the response from top notch telecom companies and went through series of interviews. All the companies I interviewed with were ready to hire me with higher salary than my current company even the cost of living is lower in the state. The biggest obstacle came when they learned that I dont have GC and they asked me to contact as soon as I have one.
I am frustrated as hell feel like lets go back to India or other country but then when I look to other folks with GC and their lifestyle I think may be it is worth to taste the bitter moment today for sweeter tomorrow but question is how long ?:(
All I wanted to express we are not cheap labor as many anti-immigrant groups claim. Like me I know most of us have skills that are in high demand which will benefit many American Corporates and in turn will benefit America. Retrogression Backlogs and unnecessary formalities is creating a "loose loose" situation.
I am frustrated as hell feel like lets go back to India or other country but then when I look to other folks with GC and their lifestyle I think may be it is worth to taste the bitter moment today for sweeter tomorrow but question is how long ?:(
All I wanted to express we are not cheap labor as many anti-immigrant groups claim. Like me I know most of us have skills that are in high demand which will benefit many American Corporates and in turn will benefit America. Retrogression Backlogs and unnecessary formalities is creating a "loose loose" situation.
justAnotherFile
07-17 08:32 PM
Thank you IV. My $50 contribution is in mail.
Total contribution: $125
Total contribution: $125
gc28262
05-11 05:35 PM
Wah! What did you see anti immigrant in my post? Can you please elaborate?
Please answer my question. You will get the answer from your reply.
You have become a citizen. What is your vested interest in pursuing this divisive discussion ?
Please answer my question. You will get the answer from your reply.
You have become a citizen. What is your vested interest in pursuing this divisive discussion ?
